Subject: Info-Mac Digest V18 #117 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 14 Sep 01 Volume 18 : Issue 117 Today's Topics: [*] ImageViewer 6.0 (New Version) [*] English Verbs 2.1 - foreign language learning [*] Hold-Up 1.1 replaces Hold-Up 1.0 [*] Icon Machine 3.0b7J - Japanese version [*] Poker Game 1.2 [*] PowerToto Demo 2.0.1 ENGLISH [*] PowerToto Demo 2.0.1 ITALIAN [*] ScopeDriver 1.0 [*] SmartWrap 2.0J - Japanese Version [*] Snak 4.7.1 [*] Submission [*] TidBITS#596/10-Sep-01 [A] New memory delay [Q] audio stream recording software? [Q] Eudora filter by date? [Q] Eudora for 68K macs audio stream recording software? Crucified by PostScript problems - Please Help! Epson & iMac G4 freezes on boot-up looking for a pop-up menu Finder hierarchy utility New memory delay New memory delay New memory delay New memory delay & new question The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. Working with the Info-Mac Digest: * To submit articles to the digest, email . * To subscribe, send email to with the words subscribe info-mac in the message. * To unsubscribe, send email to with the words unsubscribe info-mac in the message. * To change your address, unsubscribe from the old address, then subscribe from the new address. * Please send administrative queries to . 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America Online donated the main Info-Mac machine . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V18 #117" ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: Kevin Wleklinski To: Subject: [*] ImageViewer 6.0 (New Version) ImageViewer is a powerful and inexpensive Mac (OSX and Classic) multimedia application, which provides a complete set of image viewing, cataloging, browsing, and editing capabilities. ImageViewer supports all common image file types including animated GIF, JPEG, PICT, and TIFF, as well as movies, PNG and BMP (with QuickTime 3.0 or later). ImageViewer is great for quick and easy organization of images and movies, and includes support for image transfer from digital cameras, as well as, automated batch processing. ImageViewer makes extensive use of QuickTime, and fully supports video effects, which may be used as transitions between images in a slide show, to create multimedia presentations with flair! Save transition frames to create beautiful animated images. ImageViewer automates and greatly reduces the tedium of constructing HTML thumbnail pages ("contact sheets"). There are extensive options for creating html pages, which can be made "web ready" or used for platform independent local browsing. System Requirements: Any Macintosh compatible computer 32MB of RAM or more OSX or System 8.6 or greater (9.0 or greater suggested) CarbonLib 1.2.5 or greater QuickTime 3.0 or greater For more information, please view help files, or visit our web page: http://www.imageviewer.com [Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/image-viewer-60.hqx; 3750 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: Jacek Iwanski To: Subject: [*] English Verbs 2.1 - foreign language learning 'English Verbs 2.1' is a plug-in module for the 'Verbs & Nouns' language-learning program. This module helps Macintosh users to study and practise the inflection of English verbs. It is useful to native English speakers and to students learning English as a foreign language. It contains 8600 English verbs. You can change or delete existing entries, add new words, and construct groups of verbs that you want to practise. You can also add translations to the language of your choice. To use 'English Verbs' you must have the application program 'Verbs & Nouns'. You can download it from Info-Mac sites around the world (navigate to 'Education' and 'Language'), for example: or using the WWW page at . If you use the unregistered version of 'Verbs & Nouns', you can see only 59 English verbs in the main scroll-lists. To see all the verbs, you must register your copy of 'Verbs & Nouns'. The module itself is free. For up-to-date information about this and related software, visit: Jacek Iwanski. [Archived as /info-mac/edu/lang/english-verbs-21.hqx; 543 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: Hold-Up To: Subject: [*] Hold-Up 1.1 replaces Hold-Up 1.0 a) New features: Ç Balance column ("Display" menu). Ç Printing options: diplayed columns, font and font size (Preferences). Ç 30 entries in the category list instead of 20. Ç Transactions import from a Quickenü QIF text file ("Investment account transactions", "Category list", "Class list", "Account list" and "Memorized transaction list" data are not imported). Ç Transaction list export as a Quickenü QIF text file. Ç Transaction list scrollbar position is saved. Ç Switch between current / future / reconciled balance by clicking on the display. Ç PC formatted text file import. b) Fixed bugs: Ç Incorrect future balance when printing. Ç Printing in the Carbon version not working. Ç Description display when printing a filter. Ç Incorrect transaction list scrollbar behavior in the Carbon version. Ç Incorrect display when selecting transactions using the arrow keys. Ç Incorrect sorting of transactions with the same date. Ç Now uses system defined decimal separator when exporting transactions as a tabulated text file. c) Removed features: Ç "Initial balance" field in the account info: a transaction with the name "Opening balance" is automatically created instead. Ç Category and checkmarks options when importing transactions from a tabulated text file. ******** Hold-Up description ********** Hold-Up was created by Pierre-Olivier Latour and Didier Larue. It is distributed as a shareware for US $20 (Basic version) or US $30 (Pro version). Like any other personal finance manager, you can manage several accounts, enter an unlimited number of transactions, create scheduled transactions, define categories, payment types... BUT here's why this product is way better than other products available now: Contrary to others personal finance managers, Hold-Up has a nice and very well designed user interface, and most important, it has exclusive features like: Ç powerful filters (which display only transactions that match some criteria), ********** ABSTRACT CROPPED ********** [Archived as /info-mac/app/bus/hold-up-11.hqx; 1991 K] ------------------------------ Date: 14 Sep 2001 From: ChrisLi@Bridge1.com To: Subject: [*] Icon Machine 3.0b7J - Japanese version This is the Japanese version of the Icon Machine package. Icon Machine is a Macintosh icon editor designed to take advantage of the great features of the Mac OS to give you the power to make the icons you want. Now updated and redesigned for editing all icon sizes from 16x12 Mini to Mac OS X's 128x128 Thumbnail, and Carbonizedfor Mac OS X, Icon Machine is a great tool for creating icons for applications, customized folders, eye-catching documents, and everything else. "The Photoshop of icon editors!" - Andrew Miller "Icon Machine has a way of making a little square of 1024 pixels feel like an expansive painter's canvas." - Eric Prentice, MacTips Changes in version 3.0b7: - When you drag an icon onto a Small or Huge, 8-bit or 4-bit icon well and the 1-bit version doesn't exist, the 1-bit well redraws to show that it's no longer empty. The 1-bit icon was always being added, it just wasn't being redrawn immediately. - Added command key equivalents for the Show/Hide commands in the Window menu. - The Show/Hide Mask command now works. - Fixed a bug where if you open a new editing window and the text tool is already selected, the text tool's menus would be disabled. - Fixed some problems (including a crash) that could happen if you use an Open or Save dialog while an editing window was in front. - Fixed a bug where when you made a selection in a large window (like a Thumbnail icon at 4x), the selection contents were initially not drawn. - Fixed the display of the disabled transparency popup button, and it is now disabled for 8-bit icons. - Added popup arrows to the color and pattern popup buttons. - Fixed the clickable URL in the about box in OS X. - Launching the Register application from Icon Machine's registration dialog and then quitting it no longer triggers an exception alert in Icon Machine. - The registration dialog works better. Rather silly of me not to have fixed this particular bit sooner. - Fixed the -36 error that happened when saving icons in OS X. [Archived as /info-mac/gui/icon/icon-machine-30b7-jp.hqx; 813 K] ------------------------------ Date: 14 Sep 2001 From: Shari To: Subject: [*] Poker Game 1.2 Play 5 card stud, video poker and acey deucey. Raise, call, fold or try to bluff your way to riches as the dealer entertains you with her wicked wit. The dealer's voice recorded by a genuine card dealer. And she won't leave you wondering what happened. Easy to follow gameplay, tutoring assistance, and built in help so you'll never get lost. Shareware $19.95 http://www.gypsyware.com [Archived as /info-mac/game/crd/poker-game-12.hqx; 8574 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: Marco Tenuti To: Subject: [*] PowerToto Demo 2.0.1 ENGLISH PowerToto is the first complete suite to build and analyze systems for soccer based games and lottery games for MacOS and MacOS X. You may deploy your best strategies to test it again the historical archives. It lets you create system for: - Totocalcio, Totogol, Totosei (Italy) - SuperEnalotto, Lotto (Italy) - LotoFoot Matches Simple, Loto Simple (France) - Toto-R, Toto-X, Swiss Lotto (Switzerland) - Osterreichischen Toto, Lotto, ZahlenLotto (Austria) The biggest strength of PowerToto is its speed: it can generate and constraint systems in real time and it is even able to reduce systems in few seconds with fastest PowerMacintosh computers. It sports: - several constraint methods - system reductions - import and export facilities - boolean operations between systems - different views of systems (combinations view, system summary, constraint icons, grouped view) - groupings of columns - advanced versatility of dialogs - supported Drag and drop - Italian Lotto's Archive - Inspector floating window - reads files from TotoTurbo, Silvergol, and Lingotto - multithreaded application based on Thread Manager - download of archives through TCP/IP PowerToto 2.0.1 system requirements: - MacOS 8.6 - CarbonLib 1.1 - Memory: 4 MB available for PowerToto (more is better) - PowerPC processor - 12 MB hard disk free What's new in this release? - native on MacOS X - translated to English - several dialogs compliant with MacOS X - some issues fixed [Archived as /info-mac/game/power-toto-demo-201.hqx; 3338 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: Marco Tenuti To: Subject: [*] PowerToto Demo 2.0.1 ITALIAN PowerToto is the first complete suite to build and analyze systems for soccer based games and lottery games for MacOS and MacOS X. You may deploy your best strategies to test it again the historical archives. It lets you create system for: - Totocalcio, Totogol, Totosei (Italy) - SuperEnalotto, Lotto (Italy) - LotoFoot Matches Simple, Loto Simple (France) - Toto-R, Toto-X, Swiss Lotto (Switzerland) - Osterreichischen Toto, Lotto, ZahlenLotto (Austria) The biggest strength of PowerToto is its speed: it can generate and constraint systems in real time and it is even able to reduce systems in few seconds with fastest PowerMacintosh computers. It sports: - several constraint methods - system reductions - import and export facilities - boolean operations between systems - different views of systems (combinations view, system summary, constraint icons, grouped view) - groupings of columns - advanced versatility of dialogs - supported Drag and drop - Italian Lotto's Archive - Inspector floating window - reads files from TotoTurbo, Silvergol, and Lingotto - multithreaded application based on Thread Manager - download of archives through TCP/IP PowerToto 2.0.1 system requirements: - MacOS 8.6 - CarbonLib 1.1 - Memory: 4 MB available for PowerToto (more is better) - PowerPC processor - 12 MB hard disk free What's new in this release? - native on MacOS X - available also in English - several dialogs compliant with MacOS X - some issues fixed [Archived as /info-mac/game/power-toto-demo-201-it.hqx; 3342 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: "Stephen E. Hutson" To: Subject: [*] ScopeDriver 1.0 ScopeDriver allows the user to connect a Macintosh computer to a Meade LX-200 (or compatible) telescope. The LX-200 is an advanced and extremely popular instrument, but its object library is not easily expandable by the user. ScopeDriver addresses this by allowing the user to add orbiting or fixed objects to the program's database, then facilitates pointing the instrument to these newly-entered objects. ScopeDriver is shareware. Additional details can be found in the documentation. I am the author, and I can be reached at Support@ADPartnership.net. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: * Power Macintosh * At least 5 MB available RAM * At least 3 MB available hard disk space * 640 x 480 resolution monitor (14") or larger. * Mac OS 8.1 or later. Homepage: http://www.adpartnership.net/ScopeDriver/ E-mail: Support@ADPartnership.net [Archived as /info-mac/sci/scope-driver-10.hqx; 2040 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: ChrisLi@Bridge1.com To: Subject: [*] SmartWrap 2.0J - Japanese Version This is the Japanese version of the SmartWrap package. SmartWrap (tm) analyzes your text, detects paragraphs and lists within your text, and rewraps your text so it wraps naturally within your document or message. SmartWrap (tm) comes in many varieties so it's always available where you need it most. The following SmartWrap (tm) programs and plug-ins are available: Features: * SmartWrap (tm) Text Services Plug-in for MacOS X apps like TextEdit and Mail. (MacOS X) * SmartWrap (tm) Plug-in For Eudora‘ and Eudora‘ Light. (MacOS 8, 9 and X) * SmartWrap (tm) the Clipboard Application. (MacOS 8, 9 and X) * SmartWrap (tm) Plug-in For BBEdit‘, MailSmith‘, and CodeWarrior. (MacOS 8, 9 and X) * SmartWrap (tm) AppleScript Scripting Addition. (MacOS 8, 9 and X) * SmartWrap (tm) Extension for the Preditor Editor. (MacOS 8 and 9) * AppleScripts for use with Outlook Express, Claris E-Mailer, and PowerMail. (MacOS 8, 9 and X) [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/mail/smart-wrap-20-jp.hqx; 2814 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 2001 From: Kent Sorensen To: Subject: [*] Snak 4.7.1 Snak is a program that will let you participate in discussions in Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channels. A channel is like a virtual meeting room where people meet and talk. Snak will let you connect to multiple servers at the same time and the servers do not have to be on the same network. Therefore you can participate in channels on multiple networks if you so desire. At any given time the largest of the IRC networks may have as many as 35,000 participants. Almost anyone can find a channel that focuses on a topic of interest. It is estimated that at any given time there are several hundred thousand people using IRC across the various networks. Snak has a very flexible interface that supports multiple channels in one window, and the Contacts list integrates the built in address book with the notify and ignore functions. Snak comes with an extensive manual and introduction to IRC so you will get up to speed quickly. Snak supports both the scripting language from the classic ircII client for shell access accounts, so you can tap into the wealth of existing ircII scripts, as well as Ircle-style Applescripts. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/snak-471.hqx; 1833 K] ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 From: Jonathan Scott To: Subject: [*] Submission Welcome! Outside is an electronic picture book. Illustrations and message can be enjoyed by children and adults alike. Enjoy! Yes, you have my permission to put this on a CD ROM compilation. [Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/outside.hqx; 3657 K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:00:00 -0700 From: TidBITS Editors To: digest@info-mac.org, mac-l@sparky.listmoms.net, Subject: [*] TidBITS#596/10-Sep-01 TidBITS#596/10-Sep-01 Moving to a new house? Forget about where to put the sofa... get that Internet connection set up! In this issue, Adam learns through trial and error how to set up an unusual wireless network configuration. Also, Matt Neuburg organizes his hard disk with the help of DiskSurveyor, Microsoft avoids a breakup in its antitrust trial, and we note the releases of Sync Buddy 1.3, IPNetSentry 1.2 Style Master 2.0, and Retrospect drivers for use with internal CD-RW drives. Topics: MailBITS/10-Sep-01 Tools We Use: DiskSurveyor Fast and Loose with Wireless Networking [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-596.etx; 31K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:48:53 -0400 From: Ken Laskey To: , Subject: [A] New memory delay To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [Q] audio stream recording software? Folks; Please forgive if this is a FAQ. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that will havndle web streams, similar to TotalRecorder for the Windoze world, for the classic MacOS? (Basically, this software creates a driver that sits between the machine and the audio subsystem, "stealing" anything headed for the subsystem and writing it to disk first before sending it on its way.) I've been recording external outputs since the Mac Plus and MacRecorder (all those who remember then, sigh for your lost youth), but I'm wondering if there's a way to record some real-time web streams when I'm out for later listening. (Yeah, I'm talking about time-shifting Internet radio...go figure.) Freeware, shareware, or commercial is fine, doesn't matter. I will cheerfully summarize for the list, if there's enough information. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:03:42 -0400 From: Donald Webb To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [Q] Eudora filter by date? A lot of the spam I get is misdated. It would be handy to have a filter that automatically trashes anything more than a year out of date. However, I don't see that Eudora has any provision for filtering messages by date. Does anybody have any ideas how it might be done? In my experience, genuine users' computer clocks are seldom more than a year off. Don Webb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:39:37 -0500 From: Hannes Hofer To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [Q] Eudora for 68K macs Does anyone know how one goes about finding an old version of Eudora (lite) that will run on a 68K machine? ( I believe it would be v. 4.2.2 or earlier. Hannes Hofer -- ----------------------------------- Hannes Hofer Maintenance Planner and Coordinator Rice University Houston, TX 713-348-5347 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:22:27 +0200 From: muki pakesch To: Charlie Summers , digest@info-mac.org Subject: audio stream recording software? At 12:49 -0400 05.09.2001, Charlie Summers wrote: > Please forgive if this is a FAQ. Does anyone know of any audio recording >software that will havndle web streams, similar to TotalRecorder for the >... AIFFWriter http://www.waf80.de/fact/soft/AIFFwriter.sea.hqx ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Sample_Code/QuickTime/Goodies/AIFFWriter.sit hth cheers, muki __________________________________________________________________ | muki pakesch | | | | mailto:mpakesch@t0.or.at http://www.t0.or.at/~mpakesch | |__________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:01:48 +0100 From: Fergus Lalor To: comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org Subject: Crucified by PostScript problems - Please Help! In my office I have a venerable Laserwriter II NT which has given me excellent service for nearly 10 years and a more recently acquired second-hand Laserwriter 4/600 PS. About 18 months ago - coinciding roughly with my move from System 7.5 to OS8.x - my ttempts at printing began to fail with 'PostScript error' messages. At first this was sporadic but it gradually grew in significance until now these PS errors have become a major problem, significantly interfering with my work. The following points are relevant: (1) The errors occur with both printers, irrespective of whether one or the other is connected to my Mac via a single printer cable or both are connected simultaneously via one of those cables with little boxes at regular intervals - I forget the technical term. This would suggest that the printers themselves are not to blame. (2) The errors have persisted through various versions of the MacOS from 8.1 through 8.6 up to 9.1 and several clean installs of each. This would suggest that system or font problems are not to blame. (3) The errors persisted when I replaced my original PPC 8200/120 with a G3 MiniTower suggesting that a hardware problem is not the cause. (4) No improvement was noted when I gave PrintMonitor memory a significant boost. (5) The documents I print almost all originate in Word 5.1a or Word 98 - although the problem also showed today when I tried to print text from SimpleText and from a Web page in Explorer 5. With a few exceptions, documents originating on my machine have a maximun of two fonts - usually Times New Roman or Bookman with Symbol. (6) The problem occurs with large documents and small, with pasted-in graphics or none. Sometimes page-by-page printing helps, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes a document which printed sucessfully on an earlier occasion now fails - sometimes the reverse happens. I am now at my wit's end and the considerable time wasted around printing is eating into my productivity. I will be eternally grateful to anyone who can give me a handle on this infuriating problem. TIA - Fergus Lalor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:55:26 -0400 From: "Ricardo J. Seijo" To: digest@info-mac.org, digest@info-mac.org Subject: Epson & iMac I am trying to run an Epson Perfection 1240u scanner (TWAIN 5.00A) on a tray-loader iMac (OS 9.1). The machine imports the TWAIN 5 through Photoshop 6, but as soon as it runs a Preview of the bed, the iMac locks up. I checked the Epson site and it seems there are updates out for Windows, but not yet for iMac. Has anyone else seen this problem? Epson has not responded yet. Thanks in advance. - R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:48:23 -0400 From: "Ricardo J. Seijo" To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: G4 freezes on boot-up We just got 27 second-generation G4s in our lab and I have noticed they tend to freeze up upon boot-up. Sometimes when I press the power button on the monitor, the computer will power up, but it won't boot-up - not even a gray screen on the monitor. Once this happens, I press the reset button and then it boots up fine. Seems to be randomly and irregularly common around the room. Could this be a firmware problem? Thanks in advance. - R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:16:45 +0300 From: "E. Blasberg" To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: looking for a pop-up menu Finder hierarchy utility Hi all, I am the proud owner of a new TiBook (after 11 years away from the Mac) and I miss a great utility I used to have "way back when". The utility used to allow me to click and hold the mouse over a folder- I would then get a pop-up menu of all items in that folder- including other folders, which I could select to get hierarchical menus of all items (including all folders) within that folder. The (I hope obvious) advantage here was that you didn't have to open (and then close) all the enclosing folders to get to something (or click on the triangles to show them in the other Finder mode) and it made it really easy to scan through a hierarchy quickly, going up and down and in and out of any folder. So, my question is: do any of you know of any utility that would do that for me in MacOS 9.x? Please reply to me (solutions@idaq-ltd.com) as I'm not (yet) subscribed to this list... Much TIA, E. Blasberg P.S. - I know about the 1.5 click to get the magnifying glass to spring open folders. Unfortunately, this does not give me the possibility of going back up the hierarchy once I've scanned the open folder and not found what I was looking for. -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:50:27 -0400 From: Jude Giampaolo To: Chris McVay/Karen McVay , Subject: New memory delay At 5:17 PM -0700 9/9/01, Chris McVay/Karen McVay wrote: >Hi: >I just installed 512mb of ram in my PPC G3 266 beige desktop. Before I did >this I would hit the power button it would boot up right away. Now it takes >about 20 or 30 seconds to begin bringing the monitor on and booting up. >Anyone have any hints on why this is happening? Is it bad for my computer? >Thanks! Sounds like its the inital memory check you're waiting for. -- Jude Giampaolo http://prozac.eeap.cwru.edu/jude/ "Cola makes the world go jude@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu round, have a peanut." jcg8@po.cwru.edu (Please, no HTML email) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:05:35 +0200 From: muki pakesch To: Chris McVay/Karen McVay , Subject: New memory delay At 17:17 -0700 09.09.2001, Chris McVay/Karen McVay wrote: >I just installed 512mb of ram in my PPC G3 266 beige desktop. Before I did >this I would hit the power button it would boot up right away. Now it takes >about 20 or 30 seconds to begin bringing the monitor on and booting up. >Anyone have any hints on why this is happening? Is it bad for my computer? the computer is checking the installed ram at bootup the more ram you have the longer it will take you can turn off this feature by cmd-opt doubleclicking the memory controlpanel hth cheers, muki __________________________________________________________________ | muki pakesch | | | | mailto:mpakesch@t0.or.at http://www.t0.or.at/~mpakesch | |__________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:12:27 -0400 From: Robert Poland To: Chris McVay/Karen McVay , Subject: New memory delay At 5:17 PM -0700 9/9/2001, Chris McVay/Karen McVay wrote: >I just installed 512mb of ram in my PPC G3 266 beige desktop. Before I did >this I would hit the power button it would boot up right away. Now it takes >about 20 or 30 seconds to begin bringing the monitor on and booting up. >Anyone have any hints on why this is happening? Is it bad for my computer? Chris, Sounds like the memory test. To disable it - With the Command and the Option keys held down, open the Memory control panel. This will allow you the extra option, Startup Memory Tests, the bottom test. Select the OFF box. That should make a big difference. -- - Bob Poland rpoland@usa.net Check out my garage sale http://www.ibrb.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:40:50 -0600 From: Robert Zimmerman To: Chris McVay/Karen McVay Subject: New memory delay & new question Your machine is doing a RAM integrity check. If you are running 8.1 or 9.x, you can hold the option and apple (command) keys down while opening the Memory Control Panel, you'll find a new option "Startup Memory Tests". Click the Off radio button and enjoy quicker startups. Now for a question to the forum - does anyone know how to do the equivalent function (disable startup memory tests) in OSX? zimmie At 5:17 PM -0700 9/9/01, Chris McVay/Karen McVay allegedly wrote: >Hi: >I just installed 512mb of ram in my PPC G3 266 beige desktop. Before I did >this I would hit the power button it would boot up right away. Now it takes >about 20 or 30 seconds to begin bringing the monitor on and booting up. >Anyone have any hints on why this is happening? Is it bad for my computer? >Thanks! >-- >Chris/Karen McVay >fractured555@earthlink.net -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************