From: Tony Lindsey, xxltony@cts.com
Subject: Mac*Chat#114/16-Jul-96

Mac*Chat#114/16-Jul-96
======================

  Welcome to Mac*Chat, the weekly electronic newsletter for everyone
  interested in using a Macintosh computer professionally, no matter
  what their situation or profession.

  See the end of this file for further information, including how to get a free
  subscription.

  Any [comments in brackets] are by Tony Lindsey.

Highlights Of This Issue
------------------------
  I estimate how many people are reading Mac*Chat, ask how to run a
  small online discussion-list, Keith Gillespie shares some good
  sources for online humor, I share some tips about RAM prices and
  upgrading, John Friedlander invites Mac consultants to a dinner
  party in Boston, many readers tell us where to take our dead hard
  drives for resurrection, plus many tips for locating excellent
  360-degree view movies for enjoyment, we begin a discussion on
  Mac resources for folks with disabilities, and we continue even
  more discussion about inexpensive color printers.

Topics:
Highlights Of This Issue
Editor's Notes
How Do I Run A Small Online Newsletter?
Humor Resources
RAM Prices Are Down - Time To Upgrade
Consultants Dinner At Boston Macworld, August 7, 1996
Hard Disk Recovery
Quicktime VR Treats
Voice-Recognition, Or Other Means?
Inexpensive Color Printers, Continued...
Legalisms
Free Subscriptions To This Newsletter

Editor's Notes
--------------
  By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>

  Well, I'm embarrassed.  A few issues ago, I swore that every
  single issue of Mac*Chat would be out on deadline, without fail,
  unless I warned folks beforehand.  I didn't count on health
  problems getting in the way.  I was definitely not in any shape
  to deal with clients or computers for a while there.

  I'm fine now, and eager to get back in the saddle.

  -----

  One reader (whose address I lost) asked:

  "Hi, I was just wondering how many subscribers you have to the
  newsletter. It might be interesting to add the number somewhere
  in the newsletter so us die-hard Mac users could get some idea of
  how many of us there are."

  Good suggestion - I haven't done it in a while. The newsletter is
  currently estimated at 97,000 readers in 71 countries.  Around
  half are in the USA.  Mac*Chat is archived in around 3,000 places
  (like Fiji and Latvia), and on many, many BBS's that aren't
  directly connected to the Internet.  Of course, it's also
  available just about everywhere else online.  I'll be mentioning
  the Web-friendly mirror sites in the next issue.  There are some
  new additions.

  There are over 7,000 or so e-newsletters (covering every topic,
  not just computers).   The LISTSERV site that keeps track of
  those newsletters no longer ranks them by popularity, but
  Mac*Chat is definitely in the Top Fifteen.

RAM Prices Are Down - Time To Upgrade
-------------------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>

  (This is a re-post of a message I sent to my San Diego-area
  consulting clients).

  I'm surprised how few people are aware that RAM-chip prices have
  plummeted lately.  They bought a PowerMac a year or so ago and
  recoiled at the idea of spending large bundles of cash for 32
  more megs of RAM.  As a result, they've been struggling along
  with a s-l-o-w PowerMac (which is like owning a Ferrari with the
  parking-brake jammed on).

  Things have changed, and for the good.

  Out of all of the places that sell RAM chips, I've recommend Chip
  Merchant <619-268-4774> many times for my clients.  It's nice
  that they are two freeway exits away from me.  Needless to say, I
  am not affiliated with them in any way at all.

  When I went shopping for the rare RAM used in the 500-series
  portable Macs a few months ago, every other vendor was quoting me
  a standard $659.  Chip Merchant sold it to me for $420, and
  charged me $12 to install it while I waited.  Of course, that
  same item is a lot cheaper now.

  What are other good sources of inexpensive, high-quality RAM
  chips?

  I called Chip Merchant on Tuesday, July 9, 1996 and asked the
  salesperson what that day's price would be for a 32-megabyte SIMM
  (useful in older PowerMacs like the 6100/7100/8100).  She told me
  that the cash or check price would be $220, and credit -card
  price is $225.  Delivery would cost extra, of course.

  She also told me that the 32-meg DIMM chips (used in the newest
  PowerMacs like the 7500) would be $232 cash, $235 credit card.
  I'm listing these prices only as a way to impress you how much
  prices have dropped lately - They are undoubtedly different today.

  They have a brand-new web-site, which lists their current prices:

  <www.thechipmerchant.com>

  ---------

  If you have a PowerMac of any age, I strongly recommend upgrading
  its RAM.  You'll be able to run many programs at once (saving you
  time when you're working on money-making projects).  If you're
  running Photoshop, it'll run a lot quicker.  If you have RAM
  Doubler loaded, I'd dump it quick and add real RAM chips.  Same
  thing for virtual memory on an 8-meg PowerMac - TURN IT OFF.
  Life's too short to own an expensive, slow computer.  Virtual
  memory can speed up your PowerMac's operations once you have some
  real RAM to back it up, unless you're running Photoshop, which
  uses a conflicting virtual memory scheme of its own.

  I wouldn't wait to see if RAM prices drop any lower - They could
  ricochet back upward.

  ---------

  To check to see how much RAM you have installed, click once on
  your Trash Can in the lower right corner, then pull down the
  Apple menu and choose "About this Macintosh."  If there is a
  listing for "Installed Memory,"  divide it by 1024.  If not,
  refer to the "Total Memory" number and divide IT by 1024.  That's
  how many megabytes of RAM chips are installed.

  If you're just a casual Mac user, writing an occasional letter
  and playing games, don't fret yourself too much about more than
  24 megs of RAM or so.

  However, if you are a professional, using a lot of
  PowerMac-compatible programs like QuarkXpress, Illustrator,
  PhotoShop, Freehand, Painter and so on, I'd recommend a minimum
  of 40 megabytes of RAM.  The maximum?  Depends on your budget.
  I've seen professional designers using those programs with 160
  megabytes installed, and they haven't called me to complain that
  they have too much RAM.

  Every once in a while, I get a question from a client, saying
  "Why did they only provide my PowerMac with 8 megs if it's not
  enough?"  This has a simple answer - The store's salespeople
  wanted to make it attractively cheap for an initial purchase.
  They didn't have a loyal, affectionate consultant like me to tell
  you that you really needed more.

Consultants Dinner At Boston Macworld, August 7, 1996
-----------------------------------------------------
  By John Friedlander, Executive Director, Macintosh Consultants
  Network <MCN@macn.com>

  <http://www.macn.com>

  [I solicited the following message for the newsletter.  I won't
  be able to make it to the MacWorld Expo in Boston this year
  (can't afford it), but if I were, this is one event I'd never
  miss... It's a great, great experience for anyone who is a
  professional Mac consultant, or wants to become one.]

  The Macintosh Consultants Network will host a dinner for Mac
  consultants and vendors Wednesday evening, August 7, 1996 in
  Boston -- the first night of MacWorld.

  It'll be an informal, prix fixe meal in a familiar downtown hotel
  at 7:15pm (meeting in the bar starting at 6:30pm), cost about
  $40, require a reservation and advance credit card payment, and
  be limited to about 50 guests.

  It'll feature old and new friends in the Mac business, likely
  vendor specials, easy networking opportunities, and our usual
  good-natured MCN camaraderie. We'll also have a chance to talk
  about where the MCN is going over the next few months, and what
  we've got in store for Conference 16 in January in San Francisco.
  There will be no booths, no full-scale demos, just quick
  opportunities to introduce ourselves to the entire group, then
  follow-up one-on-one conversation.

  If you make your living helping people with Macs, and you've been
  looking for an opportunity to learn more about the MCN
  face-to-face, please join us for this special MCN event: email
  immediately to <MCN@macn.com> and we'll return the details and a
  registration form.

  See you in Boston!

How Do I Run A Small Online Newsletter?
---------------------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>

  Thanks to Shrimmy, I have no problems distributing one of the
  biggest electronic newsletters on Earth, but I need help on
  starting a new, smaller, automated online discussion-list for my
  online car-club.  As you may know, I collect old cars, and my '61
  Imperial convertible (one of 429 made) is still a ways away from
  being completely restored, though it looks great from a distance.

  I have been deluged with e-mail from around 100 other Imperial
  owners who found my Imperial Web-pages:

  <http://users.aol.com/xxltony/imperials.html>

  The other Imperial owners are desperate for a simple way for
  everybody to stay in touch with each other.  It seems that a
  nice, simple, automated program should allow my Mac to call in
  once a day, grab messages waiting at a certain e-mail address and
  then re-post those messages to everybody on the Imperial
  mailing-list.  I want to be List Mom, spanking rude people and
  archiving back-issues.

  I know I can use the program "Macjordomo" to do this, though I
  believe it requires a separate e-mail box, and my ISP wants $231
  for the first year for this feature.  Ouch!  Is there a cheaper,
  better way?

  My ISP also tells me that I may want to use UUCP instead ($70 for
  the first year).  I'm baffled by this (I've never heard of it),
  and throw myself upon your mercies.  I want to do next to NOTHING
  to maintain the daily operations, since my plate's pretty full
  already.  Let's be creative and miserly!  Will there be sneaky
  ways to use Eudora Pro 3.0's Auto-Reply to handle a primitive
  daily mailing-list?  I'm planning to upgrade.

Humor Resources
---------------
  [In issue #113, I asked for a few humorous tidbits to spice up
  some upcoming issues of Mac*Chat.

            A FEW.

  Holy Mackerel!  I received 1,241 messages on the topic, totaling
  4,723,991 bytes.  Such generous readers!  I have to admit, I was
  laughing like a hyena, but the funniest jokes were a bit more
  X-Rated than I'd prefer to re-post here.

  I also noticed a lot of Urban Legends being passed along.  These
  are well-told stories that are probably as fake as can be, but
  they just keep ricocheting around, like the story about the '67
  Chevy with the Jet-Assisted Take-Off.

  For the moment, I'll play it safe and pass along something that's
  in the same vein as before:]

  -----

  By Keith Gillespie <keithg@qlm.com>

  For just about all the humor you can stand, point your browser to
  LaughWEB at

  <http://world.std.com/~joeshmoe/laughweb/lweb_ns.html>

  It has links to humor archives on subjects such as: Education
  Humor, Gender/Sexual Humor, Insults, Parodies, Murphy's Law, In
  the News, Microsoft/Windows 95 Humor and, of course, Computer
  Humor--a small sample of which is below:

  -------------

  Some people can't figure out the mouse. Tamra Eagle, an AST
  technical support supervisor, says one customer complained that
  her mouse was hard to control with the "dust cover" on. The cover
  turned out to be the plastic bag the mouse was packaged in. Dell
  technician Wayne Zieschang says one of his customers held the
  mouse and pointed it at the screen, all the while clicking madly.
  The customer got no response because the mouse works only if it's
  moved over a flat surface.

  -------------

  You can also subscribe to Laugh Of The Day (LOTD), a free service
  of LaughWEB. I quote:

  "Every morning, subscribers receive an e-mail message with a
  piece of humor randomly selected from LaughWEB. Brighten up your
  morning with a little humor.

  To subscribe to LOTD via WWW point your web-browser to:

<http://world.std.com/~joeshmoe/laughweb/lotd_subscribe.html>

  via E-Mail:

  send e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com. In the body of the
  message (not the subject) write:

  subscribe lotd

  If you have questions, send them to <owner-lotd@world.std.com>"


Hard Disk Recovery
------------------
  [In issue #113, I asked how to contact folks who can resurrect
  data from desperately damaged hard drives...]

  ------

  By: Patrick Henebry <patrickh@voicenet.com>

  For best results contact DriveSavers. They are a very well known
  data recovery firm that has even been covered by C|Net Central.
  They are also recommended by MacUser. Contact info below:

  DriveSavers
  400 Bel Marin Keys Boulevard
  Novato, CA, USA 94949
  <800-440-1904/415-883-4232/Fax: 415-883-0780>
  <recovery@drivesavers.com>
  <http://www.drivesavers.com/drivesavers/02corp.html>

  Here is a page from their site with tips for Mac users on what to
  do before calling DriveSavers.

  <http://www.drivesavers.com/drivesavers/05mactips.html>

  ------

  [I received many letters like the following one - The folks at
  DriveSavers have really made an impression on many folks with
  their booth display!]

  By: Thomas Parker <parker@commodities.com>

  DriveSavers. I've never had to use them, but have heard only
  great things. The last time I attended MacWorld, their booth
  displayed machines they'd recovered data from, including a
  Powerbook that fell overboard and spent a couple days on the
  bottom of the Amazon river and an unidentifiable model that had
  been melted in a fire.

  [So, let's hear from folks who have used their services...
  Hearsay is pleasant, but I want some red meat for the newsletter!

  -------

  By Kass Johns <kassj@wookie.colospgs.co.us>

  I highly recommend...

  Total ReCall
  Colorado Springs, CO
  800.743.0594
   <http://usa.net/totrecal>

  They advertise in the back of MacWEEK. When I managed a large
  catalog publishing network, we used them a couple of times to
  recover data from SyQuest cartridges. They were great. It seems
  that at that time it was 44MB for about $75. That was many years
  ago. I am sure prices are different now. Their recovery was
  prompt and well done. They boast of fire and disaster recovery
  too.

  It is my understanding that most of our user accessible file
  recovery applications (Norton, et al) look only at the A tree for
  recovery. Total Recall (as I am sure the other businesses who do
  this) use their own proprietary B tree accessing software. I had
  also heard that Total Recall was working on a possible commercial
  version of their software for resale to end-users. This was a
  rumor I heard a year or more ago. I do not know any more about
  it. My guess is that it will be more costly than standard off the
  shelf utilities, otherwise someone else (the Gods at Norton!)
  would have brought us this solution years ago.

  ------

  By: John Graser <jgraser@pacifier.com>

  There's a friend of mine in Portland, Oregon. He has a company
  called Data Discovery.

  <peterc@teleport.com>
  6107 SW Murray blvd. Suite 163
  Beaverton, Oregon 97008
  <503-641-0351>
  <http://www.teleport.com/~peterc/>

  ------

  By: Keith E. Propp <propp-cos1@kaman.com>

  You asked about finding a company to do hard drive data recovery.
  We have a local company called Total Recall - The Data Recovery
  Company

  <http://www.recallusa.com/>
  <800-743-0594/719-380-1616/FAX 719-380-7022>
  2462 Waynoka Road, Colorado Springs, CO 80915

  I have never used or needed their help (luckily) but there was a
  favorable article about them in our local newspaper. Hope this
  helps.

  ------

  By: Mike Carlson <mhccompi@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

  On-Track is the outfit at <800-872-2599>

  They have many locations worldwide [Minneapolis, Los Angeles,
  Washington DC, London and Tokyo] and considerable experience.

Quicktime VR Treats
-------------------
  [In issue #113, I asked for Quicktime VR (Virtual Reality) sites
  on the Internet.  I received many, many responses, and here are
  the best tips:]

  By: Gino J. Piazza <gpiazza@cloud9.net>

  The first way to get to some great QuickTime VR movies [and the
  Movie Player for Windows and the stable version 1.01 for Macs] is
  to go to Apple's QuickTime VR web site at:

  <http://qtvr.quicktime.apple.com/>

  and click on Samples. There you will find a whole slew of
  different QuickTime VR movies. Since I like downloading the
  samples to my hard disk instead of viewing the movies through my
  browser, I use Plug-In Master 1.40 to disable all the Netscape
  plug-ins I have which are related to viewing movies. If you wish
  to do the same, you can find Plug-In Master 1.40 by going to the
  MacSense home page at"

  <http://www.macsense.com/MacSense/>

  and clicking on "Updates".

  The second way to gain access to a slew of QuickTime VR sites is
  to go to a search engine like AltaVista and search on "QTVR", or
  you can copy and the following URL and paste it into your wweb
  browser:

  <http://altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what=web&fmt=.&q=qtvr>

  The URL above was generated by AltaVista itself after I did a
  search on "qtvr". In other words,

  Step 1. Go to AltaVista at: <http://altavista.digital.com/>, Step
  2. Type in "qtvr" in the Search field and than click on Search,

  The resulting page generated by AltaVista will have the long URL
  listed above.

  ------

  By: Ed Vawter <vawter@synapse.bms.com>

  Here's a location for a great Disney VR movie of Main St. USA in
  the Magic Kingdom!

  <http://www.disney.com/DisneyWorld/TheParks/>

  ------

  By: Joyce McGowan <jmcgowan@comp.uark.edu>

  Here's a great QuickTime VR site that not only lets you download
  the QuickTime VR player, but also has several VR movies of scenes
  from atop Mt. Everest. It is part of the South African Everest
  Expedition 1996 web site: <http://www.web.co.za/everest/qtvr.htm>

  [VERY impressive - I grabbed all of the movies there.]

  ------

  By: Lloyd Burchill <aa731@ccn.cs.dal.ca>

  I've just released Knot 3.6, which I think is the only shareware
  that can generate QTVR object movies. It's at

  <http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Archive/gst/grf/knot-36.hqx>

  ------

  By: Peter John Benson, Robbinsdale, MN
  <benso033@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

  Here's the BMW ad site:

  <http://www.bmwusa.com/ultimate/roadster/z3downloads.html>

  ------

  By Robert Ward <rnward@slip.net>

  Here is a link to a cool 360 degree view from the dugout at
  Candlestick Park:

  <http://www.sjmercury.com/sports/giants/>

  ------

  By George M Harris, Philadelphia <gharris@pacs.pha.pa.us>

  Nashville Police Department and QTVR

  <http://www.Nashville.Net/~police/VRMovies/>

  - Discusses use of VR in police work; in particular, using QTVR
  panoramas of crime scenes to present to juries.

  SAAB USA files - QTVR files
  <http://www.saabusa.com/>

  TVR - Webix
  <http://www.webix.com/>
  - Some very nice examples here.  I downloaded one of an airplane
  on runway.

  QTVR - SiteFX Multimedia Services - Portfolio
  <http://www.sitefx.com/portfolio/qtvr/index.html>
  - View of US Capital, and interior scene.

  View360 -  QTVR Showroom
  <http://www.view360.com/showroom/showroom1.html>
  - excellent site, probably one of the best, with lots of
  examples of interiors & exteriors.

  Of course, by simply entering "qtvr" in the yahoo search you'll
  get more than enough examples.

  -----

  By Don Dickson <sandy-don@adss.on.ca>

  I have not checked out all parts of this one but it must be the
  mother of all VR sites.

http://www.ga.unc.edu/

  This is the home page of UNC. There is a link to a state map
  showing the 16 different campuses. Eight of them have VR sites. I
  only went to one so far and there were 6 different VR movies at
  that site alone so if the others are the same there are 48 QTVR's
  showing views at the various campuses.

Voice-Recognition, Or Other Means?
----------------------------------
  By Dr. Kit Weathers <drkit@atlanta.com>

  On May 10, 1996, I nearly lost my brother Dr. Beck Weathers to a
  disaster on Mt. Everest. Beck survived a storm that killed eight
  fellow climbers.

  Earlier this week...Beck's right hand was amputated and he
  underwent extensive surgery to try to save his left hand.

  He now needs some type of voice recognition software to be able
  to efficiently operate his computer.

  I obtained information concerning Dragon Dictate for Windows from
  a MicroSoft Bulletin board, and I was wondering if there is a
  comparable product (voice recognition software) for the Mac.

  ----

  Tony's Reply:

  I would definitely check out the following web site:

  <http://www2.apple.com/documents/groups.html>

  This allows you to explore Apple's enormous support for folks
  with disabilities.  You'll find several voice-recognition
  products listed, but voice-control is only one way to help your
  brother - There are alternative input devices of many kinds.

  I remember when I used to give Mac demos to the local
  Disabilities Interest Group of the San Diego Computer Society.
  They were a tough audience, and they would have roasted me alive
  if I had misled them or tried to sugar-coat any information.
  Most of the folks there were PC users, and they always came away
  impressed by the Mac's built-in support for the visually impaired
  (CloseView) and those who cannot handle a standard mouse or
  keyboard (Easy Access).

  Apple has a long history of supporting folks with any kind of
  disability.

Inexpensive Color Printers, Continued...
----------------------------------------
  [This appears to be The Topic That Would Not Die... See issues
  110-113.]

  By: Don Hinkle <73776.2504@CompuServe.COM>

  Following the discussion on the color inkjets. I got an Epson
  stylus II and like the output very much--had an art director at a
  major publisher (all Mac design staff) ask me pointedly if the
  (720 dpi) picture I showed her was really "computer art"...

  However, on my 5300ce I was having lots of crashes (probably from
  RAM Doubler, which I've since turned off) and each time it
  crashed while I was printing something the Epson driver went to
  heaven. So I had to reload the software. I finally got smart and
  after the last reload, duplicated the driver and stored it in my
  Utilities folder. Now if I get a crash--far less often--I just go
  and duplicate the copy and drag it into the System folder.

  ------

  By: macman <macman@SNET.Net>

  StyleWriter 2500 User Experience

  I use a LaserWriter Pro 600 for most of my printing but for a
  long time I wanted color for very occasional but demanding
  output. The 2500 is perfect for this purpose. I use the plain
  paper and 'Normal' printing dialog selection and under options I
  select 'colorsync' and '2500 scatter'. These settings when used
  with Cannon Bubblejet HR-101 paper (from Sears) gives near
  photographic results.

  The biggest mistake most users make on any printer is setting
  maximum resolution which unknowingly reduces the number of
  tonalities to the fewest shades. The middle resolution - 'normal'
  setting - gives medium resolution but equals more shades. On the
  2500 this provides enough tonalities to trick your eye into
  seeing a photograph.

  Previously, I had an HP DeskWriter C for the Mac. The real
  problem is that the driver updates are for HPs currently shipping
  machines. In a market where models are discontinued every 6
  months or so, this is a real problem. The Apple drivers always
  ship with the newest Operating Systems (soon to be system 8).
  Live and learn. That little apple logo means your hardware will
  most likely work for many years! My LW Pro 600 works even better
  with the newest LW8 drivers.

  -----

  By: Mark Hickenbottom <snap@netcom.com>

  Mark Alan Cirino said: "With the StyleWriter, I know that I'm
  going to get a brand new compatible driver every time Apple
  updates the System - and it's free!"

  Not true. Apple's LaserWriter II SC is incompatible with 7.5.3
  (prints dots all over the page, and spaces text out making it
  look ugly) and I don't think Apple has plans to fix it.

  [Something sounds odd here - The IISC is a QuickDraw device,
  using the Mac as its imaging-engine.  As simple as you can get.
  Has anybody else found this problem?]

Legalisms and Information
-------------------------
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  Publication, product, and company names may be registered
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