From: rlhaas@sprynet.com (Robin Haas) Subject: IRC channel Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:47:18 -1000 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <31845648.52935502@news.sprynet.com> If anyone is interested there is an IRC channel on undernet.org called "kites." I'll be on around 9:00 P.M. PST Monday 4/29/96. Wanted to invite any that may be interested to join in. Robin Haas, President Fort Worden Kitemakers Conference rlhaas@eskimo.com 206-359-2206 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: pp@win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:39:01 -1000 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <4m9sb5$eae@svin09.win.tue.nl> In article <31845648.52935502@news.sprynet.com>, rlhaas@sprynet.com (Robin Haas) writes: >If anyone is interested there is an IRC channel on undernet.org called >"kites." I'll be on around 9:00 P.M. PST Monday 4/29/96. Wanted to >invite any that may be interested to join in. Hmm.. that would split up the kiters over two kites channels on IRC since there already was one on EFnet.... I'm sure that is not wat you wanted to accomplish... (Now I'm sure we met via rec.kites Robin... :-)) Peter -- Peter Peters, pp@win.tue.nl, http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/ Like kites.... look at http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/kites/ and http://www.kfs.org/kites/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: rlhaas@sprynet.com (Robin Haas) Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 04:09:54 -1000 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <318b5eff.302723797@news.sprynet.com> pp@win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) wrote: >In article <31845648.52935502@news.sprynet.com>, > rlhaas@sprynet.com (Robin Haas) writes: >>If anyone is interested there is an IRC channel on undernet.org called >>"kites." I'll be on around 9:00 P.M. PST Monday 4/29/96. Wanted to >>invite any that may be interested to join in. > >Hmm.. that would split up the kiters over two kites channels on IRC since >there already was one on EFnet.... I'm sure that is not wat you wanted >to accomplish... You are right. That is not what I wanted to accomplish. In fact I "ran into" a fellow kite flyer on undernet. We were on a channel unrelated to kite flying. She set up the channel so that we could both go to it and talk and possibly be joined by other kiteflyers. Is it possible that there are flyers that don't have access to EFnet but do to undernet? Would it be improper to have a second channel on another network? I don't honestly know the answers to these questions. Since this posting I found out about the channel on EFnet and that has been where I have been going to when using IRC. Have run into people that I haven't seen for a while. Robin Haas, President Fort Worden Kitemakers Conference rlhaas@eskimo.com 206-359-2206 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: pp@win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 23:05:10 -1000 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <4mkfc6$946@svin09.win.tue.nl> <4m9sb5$eae@svin09.win.tue.nl> <318b5eff.302723797@news.sprynet.com> In article <318b5eff.302723797@news.sprynet.com>, rlhaas@sprynet.com (Robin Haas) writes: >pp@win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) wrote: > >>Hmm.. that would split up the kiters over two kites channels on IRC since >>there already was one on EFnet.... I'm sure that is not wat you wanted >>to accomplish... > >You are right. That is not what I wanted to accomplish. Hmmm, that may have sounded worse than intended. I knew that you did not want to do that. We just met on #kites on EFnet that morning... >Is it possible that there are flyers that don't have access to EFnet but >do to undernet? As far as I know people having access to an undernet (or dalnet, or whatevernet) server, will also be able to access EFnet servers. (Maybe some internet provider with peculiar ideas might limit this, but that's not done as far as I know). >Would it be improper to have a second channel on another network? No, it would not be improper, it would just split the amount of people interested in the same subject. (same arguments hold as in the "let's split rec.kites" discussion). The reason for choosing EFnet was that some people that were familiar with IRC, already were "tuned in" to other channels on IRC that are available on EFnet. Personally I would like a net that suffers less from net-splits.... Peter -- Peter Peters, pp@win.tue.nl, http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/ Like kites.... look at http://www.win.tue.nl/~pp/kites/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: goodwinds@aol.com (Goodwinds) Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:50:08 -1000 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Message-ID: <4mmkq0$dvj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Robin, Fill me in. There's an internet and now and undernet, is there an outernet that I'm not aware of? :o) By the way thanks for the nice words about our book. Are you coming to the Seattle Kite Festival at Magnuson Park on June 16, 1996? We need lots of kite flyers to show the city of Seattle what we are all about. Everyone is invited to come for the big party. That's what it is. We don't ask any one for donations, there aren't any competitions, we give prizes away, and donate all the proceeds of contributions to the Northwest Brainchild Foundation. Kathy Goodwind Vice President of the Fort Worden Kitemakers Conference = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Tone Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 08:15:21 -1000 Organization: None Message-ID: <341602868wnr@antb.demon.co.uk> EFnet is also difficult to access from the UK Undernet is no problem -- *********************************************************************** Tone@antb.demon.co.uk Space is big....REALLY big ! *********************************************************************** = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Tone Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 08:16:55 -1000 Organization: None Message-ID: <471251357wnr@antb.demon.co.uk> In article: <4mkfc6$946@svin09.win.tue.nl> pp@win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) writes: > > As far as I know people having access to an undernet (or dalnet, > or whatevernet) server, will also be able to access EFnet servers. > (Maybe some internet provider with peculiar ideas might limit this, but > that's not done as far as I know). > Many UK efnet servers in the UK need Authorisation to access them Undernet is available to all > > -- *********************************************************************** Tone@antb.demon.co.uk Space is big....REALLY big ! *********************************************************************** = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: rlhaas@sprynet.com (Robin Haas) Subject: Re: IRC channel Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 17:53:53 -1000 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <31933d73.818501562@news.sprynet.com> goodwinds@aol.com (Goodwinds) wrote: >Robin, Fill me in. There's an internet and now and undernet, is there an >outernet that I'm not aware of? :o) By the way thanks for the nice words >about our book. >Are you coming to the Seattle Kite Festival at Magnuson Park on June 16, >1996? >We need lots of kite flyers to show the city of Seattle what we are all >about. Everyone is invited to come for the big party. That's what it is. > We don't ask any one for donations, there aren't any competitions, we >give prizes away, and donate all the proceeds of contributions to the >Northwest Brainchild Foundation. >Kathy Goodwind >Vice President of the Fort Worden Kitemakers Conference Let me say what I know (or think I know) about this. If anyone has better information please post it because I am pretty new to using IRC and am still learning. (Barressi jump on in!) Undernet is the name of a server that handles IRC (Internet Relay Chat). There is actually a us.undernet.org and a uk.undernet.org. I am not sure if people on both servers are talking to each other or just to the people that log into the individual servers. It seems that more and more kite flyers are joining the conversations on efnet. There are many servers as part of efnet. I will try to find out the addresses of them if there is interest. I have found out since this thread started that everyone cannot use all servers. A server in Texas that I have tried to get on will not allow anybody >From Compuserve. I am using Sprynet which is part of Compuserve. It doesn't know the difference and won't let me on. However, other efnet servers do allow me. None of the efnet servers allow customers of Eskimo North on. They allow bots (don't ask cause I don't know) so they have been banned. It all comes back to the concern about having two kite channels on IRC on different servers. Since not everyone has access to all the servers I think it would be okay. If people can get onto an efnet server they should and join the #kites channel there. If they don't have access they can try undernet and give it a try there. At this time there is more kite activity on efnet. Robin Haas, President Fort Worden Kitemakers Conference rlhaas@eskimo.com 206-359-2206 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =