Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 05:15:35 -1000
From: koconnor@iinet.net.au (Karen O'Connor)
Message-Id: <4g7fqn$d0@opera.iinet.net.au>
Organization: iiNet technologies
Subject: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
We are very lucky here in Western Australia - it never EVER snows.. and frost
is always gone by about 8:00am. And that's in winter. Now its summer and the
weather is just a little too hot (40C+).
BUT we have been invited to fly in Korea the week after next.. Weather there
today was -6C to 0C. They say it will warm up to about 5C (max) by next
week.......
Now, that kind of weather we spoiled West Aussies can't even imagine! Phil
and David have never seen snow in their whole lives!! (Phil turns 50 while we
are away)
What do we do to keep warm PLEASE? Remember that anything less than 20C is
VERY cold for us.
Thought of hot water bottles, we will buy gloves and thermal underwear, and
are borrowing down jackets...
The wind chill factor must be horrible!!!!
Any hints will be very much appreciated.
Thanks
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 05:14:35 -1000
From: sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC)
Message-Id: <4gcogr$1gi@acmey.gatech.edu>
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
In article <4g7fqn$d0@opera.iinet.net.au>,
Karen O'Connor <koconnor@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>we will buy gloves and thermal underwear, and
>are borrowing down jackets...
Good start.
The most important thing to remember is to layer your clothes. Like
thermies under jeans covered by snow pants or for upper body, thermal
undershirt, t-shirt, sweat shirt, windbreaker, & a down jacket over
all of it. Layer things. For your legs, you would be amazed at how much
heat panty hose will retain especially when worm under themal
underwear.
So layer up & stay warm.
Gentle breezes,
Steve
************************ aoxomoxoa ************************
* I'm not a participant in any organized hobby... *
* I'm a kiteflier! *
* (with appologies to Will Rogers) *
http://server1.admin.gatech.edu/fac/steve/kiting/kiting.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:33:16 -1000
From: mark@murder.compulink.co.uk (Mark de Roussier)
Message-Id: <4gdtbo$hcu@zinc.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: damage
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
koconnor@iinet.net.au (Karen O'Connor) wrote:
>BUT we have been invited to fly in Korea the week after next.. Weather there
>today was -6C to 0C. They say it will warm up to about 5C (max) by next
>week.......
>
Sounds like the UK at the moment... The most important single thing
is warm headgear. Preferably one that offers some 'ear-coverage'. A
stretchy woolly hat is good, or a polarfleece one.
Neck protection is a particular thing of mine. Unless I put something
warm around my neck, I catch cold. Your mileage may vary, as they say.
Boots/shoes and *good socks* are important, especially if its going to
be wet *and* cold. Don't underestimate the importance of socks. The
best ones I've ever found for standing / walking around in the cold
are Thor-Lo, but each to his own...
Gloves aren't a big issue unless it's actually snowing/raining. Bulky
gloves are a PITA when flying, and could even be dangerous in some
circumstances. Generally I fly until I can't feel the line anymore,
then I stick my hands somewhere warm for a while and start again !:).
But its easy to go OTT and end up looking like something out of a B -
movie. Take three or four layers worth of stuff with you, a waterproof
, warm hat and socks, and just see how much you need to wear. If
you're actually out on the field in these conditions for several
hours at a time, you may need most of it. But maybe you'll only be
active for 20 minute bursts, and you'll be in a bar inbetween times
:).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Final thoughts, as breath is taken,
Fall to rhythm, and the
Edge of pure obsession,
Resting in the wind blown cradle,
Nothing moves, the world is still...
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:00:18 -1000
From: othasuay@terranet.ab.ca (Frank Lee)
Message-Id: <4gdqr2$k7c@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Organization: I & I Services
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
In article <4g7fqn$d0@opera.iinet.net.au>, koconnor@iinet.net.au says...
>BUT we have been invited to fly in Korea the week after next.. Weather
there
>today was -6C to 0C. They say it will warm up to about 5C (max) by next
>week.......
>What do we do to keep warm PLEASE? Remember that anything less than 20C is
>VERY cold for us.
>
>Thought of hot water bottles, we will buy gloves and thermal underwear,
and
>are borrowing down jackets...
>
>The wind chill factor must be horrible!!!!
>
>Any hints will be very much appreciated.
I fly in northern Canada and the temperatures you will be flying in would
normally lead me to wear just a fall jacket, bush hat and no gloves.
However, as you say you're not acclimatized to it so the following
suggestions. . .
A good and warm hat that covers your ears completely is the most important
item.
A pair of warm boots with enough room in them for two sets of woolen socks.
Wind proof pants and jacket or the equivalent.
With this outfit I can fly in minus twenty-five degree weather as long as I
also have good gloves.
Good luck in Korea.
frank lee
othasuay@terranet.ab.ca
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 07:57:53 -1000
From: dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg)
Message-Id: <4gd231$6fk@ednet1.osl.or.gov>
Organization: Eastern Oregon State College
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
I was in Korea for their last festival. It wasn't *too* cold,
but that doesn't mean it won't be this time.
If you start getting chilled, stop flying. Take a break,
go to one of the tents, have something warm to drink, and
*then* go back to the field. Simple enough...
Have fun!
--
David Gomberg phone 503-996-3083/fax541-994-9692
Gomberg Kite Productions, International
Importer of Peter Lynn giant inflatibles. Email us for prices.
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:41:12 -1000
From: amirault@laraby.tiac.net (Richard Amirault)
Message-Id: <amirault.825302472@laraby.tiac.net>
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC) writes:
>>we will buy gloves and thermal underwear, and
>>are borrowing down jackets...
>The most important thing to remember is to layer your clothes. Like
>thermies under jeans covered by snow pants or for upper body, thermal
>undershirt, t-shirt, sweat shirt, windbreaker, & a down jacket over
>all of it. Layer things. For your legs, you would be amazed at how much
>heat panty hose will retain especially when worm under themal
>underwear.
And over everything wear some sort of windbreak. I use *oversized* rain
gear. You'd be suprised how far wind can penetrate heavy clothing.
--
Richard Amirault N1JDU Boston, Massachusetts USA
amirault@tiac.net "Go Fly A Kite"
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 04:08:13 -1000
From: ciuffo@rainbow.rmii.com (Aaron Ciuffo)
Message-Id: <4gsesd$6bn@natasha.rmii.com>
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
Richard Amirault (amirault@laraby.tiac.net) wrote:
: sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC) writes:
: >>we will buy gloves and thermal underwear, and
: >>are borrowing down jackets...
: >The most important thing to remember is to layer your clothes. Like
: >thermies under jeans covered by snow pants or for upper body, thermal
: >undershirt, t-shirt, sweat shirt, windbreaker, & a down jacket over
: >all of it. Layer things. For your legs, you would be amazed at how much
: >heat panty hose will retain especially when worm under themal
: >underwear.
: And over everything wear some sort of windbreak. I use *oversized* rain
: gear. You'd be suprised how far wind can penetrate heavy clothing.
Also, try using those chemical heaters. The ones that are in
small vinal pouches. You boil them to "reste" them, then bend a small
metal disk in side, to activate. If kept in a confined space, they
will stay warm for hours. Especialy valuable when your hands
are numb, and you can't unhook your kite from the line :)
Another good article to bring with you is a Thinsulate shirt.
It is a special material, made of hollow fibres. It will keep you
warm in the coldest conditions. Very thin, but very warm. Drawback;
VERY expencive.
Aaron
Good luck and good winds!
Good Luck
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 04:40:48 -1000
From: Kel Krosschell <kitenut@millcomm.com>
Message-Id: <3131C670.7AA4@millcomm.com>
Organization: Millennium Communications, Inc.
Subject: Re: Help? How do I keep warm flying in very cold weather?
> >today was -6C to 0C. They say it will warm up to about 5C (max) by next
> >week.......
Buy some "Coveralls"! (a single piece insulated outerwear, with
available zip on hood. Walls is a well known brand). Here in MN
they're good to -20F in 10mph. I usually avoid windchill factors below
-40. The one piece construction avoids the "leaks" between jacket and
pants. I just pull them on over my normal indoor attire, boots,
gloves, kite and fly.
I seriously recommend wrist straps in cold weather. I started with
handles, but found that they reduce the circulation in the fingers. This
coupled with the cold is a lose/lose situation. The wrist straps allow
you to "exercise" your fingers to help keep them warm, as well as
work well with MITTENS (so your fingers can share the heat).
Probably the best solution I've found for cold weather flying is to fly
indoors....Now becoming a challenging activity for 2 and 4 line fliers
in addition to us single line Nuts.
Kel_,_
--
Kel_._ the MN_KiteNut (Kel Krosschell)
E-mail to kitenut@millcomm.com
Home page at http://www.millcomm.com/~kitenut/
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