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        This summary was prepared using
        [Mail::Summary::Tools](http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-Summary-Tools/),
        now available on CPAN.
        
        If you appreciate Perl, consider [contributing to the Perl
        Foundation](http://donate.perlfoundation.org) to help support the
        development of Perl.
        
        Yuval Kogman covered a number of threads this week.
        
        Thank you to everyone who has pointed out mistakes and offered
        suggestions for improving this series.  Comments on this summary can be
        sent to Ann Barcomb, <kudra@domaintje.com>.
      title: Acknowlegements
    - body: |-
        This summary can be found in the following places:
        
        * [use.perl.org](http://use.perl.org/)
        * [The Pugs blog](http://pugs.blogs.com/)
        * [The perl6-announce mailing
          list](http://lists.cpan.org/showlist.cgi?name=perl6-announce)
        * [ONLamp](http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/)
      title: Distribution
  header:
    - body: |-
        "`my Yellow sub marine { @we.all.live }`" 
        
        -- Larry Wall, concluding a series of Beatles references in the grep thread.
      title: This week on the Perl 6 mailing lists
  see_also:
    - name: Perl Foundation activities
      uri: http://blog.perlfoundation.org
    - name: Perl 6 Development
      uri: http://dev.perl.org/perl6
    - name: Planet Perl Six
      uri: http://planetsix.perl.org/perl6
lists:
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    threads:
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        message_id: 20060917003532.841CDCBA4D@x12.develooper.com
        posters:
          - email: larry@cvs.perl.org
            name: larry
        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12136 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
        summary: |-
          Larry Wall committed a change stating that the filetest operators return a stat buffer object, that can be repeatedly used for more file tests, and also overloads boolean context for the test that created it.
          
          This eliminates the need for the `-X _` form in Perl 5, used to eliminate additional calls to `stat`.
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        posters:
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            name: larry
        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12149 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
        summary: ''
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        message_id: 'p06230900c132bbc04876@[192.168.1.101]'
        posters:
          - email: darren@DarrenDuncan.net
            name: Darren Duncan
        subject: class attr set defs as their names
        summary: Darren Duncan asked if two class meta objects `eqv`ing one another implies type equality. Nobody seemed to have any view on the subject.
      - date_from: 1158548108
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        message_id: eel1pe$hqq$1@sea.gmane.org
        posters:
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            name: Mark Stosberg
        subject: request for addition to administrative field to Synopsis
        summary: |-
          Mark Stosberg had a comment on the specification for smart linking.
          He offered a suggestion to make the documentation more useful to 
          users.
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            name: Darren Duncan
          - email: trey@lopsa.org
            name: Trey Harris
          - email: mail@gedankenkonstrukt.de
            name: Thomas Wittek
          - email: mark@summersault.com
            name: Mark Stosberg
          - email: damian@conway.org
            name: Damian Conway
          - email: merlyn@stonehenge.com
            name: merlyn
          - email: Smylers@stripey.com
            name: Smylers
          - email: ajs@ajs.com
            name: Aaron Sherman
          - email: markjreed@mail.com
            name: Mark J. Reed
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: dataweaver@gmail.com
            name: Jonathan Lang
          - email: john@perlwolf.com
            name: John Macdonald
          - email: duff@pobox.com
            name: Jonathan Scott Duff
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            name: Bob Rogers
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: cmasak@gmail.com
            name: Carl Mäsak
          - email: benmorrow@tiscali.co.uk
            name: Ben Morrow
          - email: douglist@macnauchtan.com
            name: Doug McNutt
          - email: andy@hexten.net
            name: Andy Armstrong
          - email: masoch@istic.org
            name: Daniel Hulme
        subject: Renaming grep
        summary: |-
          Darren Duncan suggested renaming `grep` to `where` in order to phase out UNIX lingo from Perl. Many people also suggested `filter`, and it was noted by Damian Conway that this is in fact the de facto standard for modern languages (like Haskell and Python). `select` and `reject` were also proposed at which point a list parting construct with arbitrary buckets was also proposed.
          
          The end result was the introduction of the `classify` built-in by Damian. This
          function generalizes various other list filtering and parting semantics.
          
          There was also a discussion on aliases and homonyms, under the umbrella of keeping `grep` as a backwards compatibility alias.
          
          Subsequently, Trey Harris' suggestion for using junctions and `~~` was discussed in [a different thread](msgid:67d53e40609190451m643e2ea8pbf498ccff5e98b6c@mail.gmail.com).
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            name: Larry Wall
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            name: Thomas Wittek
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          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
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        subject: 'Re: renaming "grep" to "where"'
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        posters:
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        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12185 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
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      - date_from: 1158666732
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        messages:
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            name: Markus Laire
          - email: trey@lopsa.org
            name: Trey Harris
        subject: 'any(@originals) ~~ { .foo eq $bar} (was Re: renaming "grep" to "where")'
        summary: ''
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        posters:
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            name: TSa
        subject: class interface of roles
        summary: |-
          TSa wondered how [typing of 
          mixins](http://www.jot.fm/issues/issue_2004_11/column1) would
          look in Perl 6.  A code example of how it might look was included.
          There were also some questions on roles in Perl 6.
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        posters:
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            name: Aaron Sherman
        subject: Threads and types
        summary: 'Aaron Sherman asked whether or not the type system and the meta model is shared between threads, especially in the light of a shared variable of a certain type.'
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        subject: 'Re: renaming "grep" to "where"'
        summary: ''
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          - email: audreyt@cvs.perl.org
            name: audreyt
        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12239 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
        summary: ''
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          - email: audreyt@cvs.perl.org
            name: audreyt
        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12246 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
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        posters:
          - email: audreyt@cvs.perl.org
            name: audreyt
        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12247 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
        summary: ''
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        posters:
          - email: trey@lopsa.org
            name: Trey Harris
          - email: ajs@ajs.com
            name: Aaron Sherman
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: malaire@gmail.com
            name: Markus Laire
        subject: 'call, call(), .call, and captures'
        summary: |-
          Trey Harris pointed out that there are three types of 'call' as expressed
          in S06 and S12.  He would like to see the syntax normalized to avoid confusion.
          Aaron Sherman and Markus Laire added some comments.
          Larry Wall wanted to avoid using related names for unrelated concepts.
          He thought that perhaps three different names (`call`, `callargs` and 
          `callcap`) would help clarify the situation.  Aaron Sherman liked the idea.
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        posters:
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: Smylers@stripey.com
            name: Smylers
          - email: sam@vilain.net
            name: Sam Vilain
          - email: dataweaver@gmail.com
            name: Jonathan Lang
          - email: ajs@ajs.com
            name: Aaron Sherman
          - email: trey@lopsa.org
            name: Trey Harris
          - email: kolibrie@graystudios.org
            name: Nathan Gray
          - email: lrpalmer@gmail.com
            name: Luke Palmer
        subject: Capture sigil
        summary: |-
          Larry Wall announced that Captures will now have their own sigil, allowing captures stored in scalars to be "interpolated" into argument lists without using the `[,] =$capture` form. It was eventually decided that `|` will perform this role. The resultant syntax is:
          
              my $foo = \(:foo(4), $blah);
              gorch(|$foo);
          
          which is analogous to:
          
              my $foo = «bar gorch»;
              my @array = ( "foo", @$foo
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        posters:
          - email: larry@cvs.perl.org
            name: larry
          - email: ajs@ajs.com
            name: Aaron Sherman
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: markjreed@mail.com
            name: Mark J. Reed
        subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r12284 - doc/trunk/design/syn'
        summary: |-
          Larry Wall committed a change to S02 concerning the | sigil and
          operator.  Aaron Sherman requested an update to S03's 'Junctive operators'
          to resolve the ambiguity of `a|$b`, `a | $b`, and `a |$b`.  Larry
          attempted to clarify.  Mark J. Reed noted that this implies that
          subroutines without arguments will be rare, but methods without them
          will be commonplace, introducing the same ambiguity with `$o.a%$b`
          and other similar-looking expressions.  Larry replied that a method
          does not take arguments without `:` or `()`.
          
          Aaron commented on Larry's statement that bare constants are being
          discouraged in favor of sigiled constants by asking if `pi` and `e`
          should become `$pi` (or `$π`) and `$e`.
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        posters:
          - email: markjreed@mail.com
            name: Mark J. Reed
          - email: mark@summersault.com
            name: Mark Stosberg
          - email: ajs@ajs.com
            name: Aaron Sherman
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
        subject: Dumb list-flattening question.
        summary: |-
          Mark J. Reed wanted to know how to create a two element list out of
          two arrays, which in Perl 5 would be `(\@a, \@b)`.  If the syntax is
          the same, he wanted to know what the `\` mechanism is called, since
          references are automagical.  Juerd replied that they are captures.
          Aaron Sherman elaborated Juerd's answer by referencing S03.  Mark
          J. Reed suggested mentioning captures to prevent list flattening in
          S09.  Mark Stosberg felt that the specification for `\` was unclear.
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        posters:
          - email: dataweaver@gmail.com
            name: Jonathan Lang
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
        subject: Capture Literals
        summary: |-
          Jonathan Lang asked how he could construct a capture literal which has
          both an invocant and at least one positional argument, and how it would
          be distinguished from a capture literal which has no invocant and at
          least two positional arguments.  He offered some example code, which,
          according to Larry Wall, was correct aside from a syntax error.
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        messages:
          - 20060922143650.GA1810@host.pmichaud.com
        posters:
          - email: audreyt@audreyt.org
            name: Audrey Tang
          - email: pmichaud@pobox.com
            name: Patrick R. Michaud
          - email: fglock@gmail.com
            name: Flavio S. Glock
        subject: Motivation for /<alpha>+/ set Array not Match?
        summary: |-
          Audrey Tang quoted a section of S05 concerning subrules.  She found
          the 'quantified' clause to be unintuitive and wondered if it would be
          possible to modify it to produce Match objects and to reserve Array
          only for noncontiguous same-name subrules.
          Patrick R. Michaud and
          Flavio S. Glock made some alternate suggestions.
    title: Language
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        posters:
          - email: paultcochrane@gmail.com
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Will Coleda
        subject: 'Re: [perl #40278] [CAGE] perl coding standards coda.'
        summary: ''
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        posters:
          - email: karl.forner@gmail.com
            name: Karl Forner
          - email: lt@toetsch.at
            name: Leopold Toetsch
        subject: HOWTO give options to parrot in tests
        summary: |-
          Last week,
          Karl Forner posted that he is working on <rt://perl/40064>.  He was
          wondering how he could run the script with options, and wanted to know if `TEST_PROG_ARGS` would be an appropriate choice.  Leopold Toetsch suggested subclassing Parrot::Test.
          
          Karl noted that if he subclasses Parrot::Test he won't be able to
          reuse the code.  Leopold replied that there are already test classes
          in `lib/Parrot/Test/*.pm`.
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        posters:
          - email: albie@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt
            name: Alberto Simões
        subject: cur_namespace under imcc.y
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158508438
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        hidden: change to make repo work again
        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31259-1158508428-1672.40347-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Ron Blaschke
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40347'
        subject: "[perl #40347] Can't determine revision under Subversion 1.4.0 "
        summary: ''
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        message_id: 20060917191535.GO158@turtle.local
        messages:
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        posters:
          - email: david.romano+p6i@gmail.com
            name: David Romano
          - email: albie@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt
            name: Alberto Simões
        subject: gmp_version undeclared
        summary: |-
          David Romano reported that his Parrot build failed due to the 
          gmp_version being undeclared.  He included a patch for people who
          don't have GMP installed.
          Alberto Simões
          noted it was fixed in r14636.
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        hidden: ~
        message_id: 20060917192034.GP158@turtle.local
        posters:
          - email: david.romano+p6i@gmail.com
            name: David Romano
        subject: pcre tests
        summary: |-
          David Romano reported that two tests which depend on PCRE failed
          when PCRE is not installed.  The code which checks for PCRE does
          not work.  David included a patch to fix this.
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        hidden: ~
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        messages:
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          - 20060919013504.GA8085@wall.org
        posters:
          - email: rogers-perl6@rgrjr.dyndns.org
            name: Bob Rogers
          - email: lt@toetsch.at
            name: Leopold Toetsch
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: mddiep@gmail.com
            name: Matt Diephouse
        subject: 'RFC: Consolidate stack-unwinding code'
        summary: |-
          Bob Rogers refactored Parrot's stack unwinding code, consolidating it's various incarnations into the continuation invocation. Leopold Toetsch answered some of Bob's questions. Larry Wall clarified Perl 6's requirements of Parrot's continuation handling.
          
          Matt Diephouse commented that this change broke Tcl's `uplevel`, and helped Bob to test a quick fix that preceded a real fix.
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        message_id: 20060918131500.10711.qmail@x1.develooper.com
        posters:
          - email: perlbug-summary@perl.org
            name: Parrot Bug Summary
        subject: Parrot Bug Summary
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158589029
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        hidden: ~
        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31251-1158588997-1542.40349-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40349'
        subject: '[perl #40349] [PATCH] #40278: [CAGE] perl coding standards coda. '
        summary: |-
          Paul Cochrane sent a patch to try to close ticket <rt://perl/40349>, 
          which was related to <rt://perl/40278> and concerned coding style.
      - date_from: 1158659483
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        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31259-1158659469-1553.40360-72-0@perl.org
        messages:
          - 200609201608.36681.lt@toetsch.at
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Dmitry Karasik
          - email: lt@toetsch.at
            name: Leopold Toetsch
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40360'
        subject: '[perl #40360] [PATCH] implement loadlib(NULL) '
        summary: |-
          Dmitry Karasik sent a patch in <rt://perl/40360>, which was applied
          as revision r14670.
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        posters:
          - email: paultcochrane@gmail.com
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com
            name: jerry gay
          - email: chromatic@wgz.org
            name: chromatic
        prev_message_id: 8e8ee0d40609190736q71262a47s1702c4c1e4e4bb3a@mail.gmail.com
        subject: 'Re: [perl #40361] [PATCH] #40278 [CAGE] perl coding standards coda. (cont.)'
        summary: 'Paul Cochrane supplied a patch for bringing various files in the Parrot repository up to the coding standards. Jerry Gay noted some problems with the change, which Paul corrected. This was eventually added to RT as <rt://perl/40364>.'
      - date_from: 1158677150
        date_to: 1158761541
        hidden: relates to the above message
        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31251-1158677136-1950.40364-72-0@perl.org
        messages:
          - 1d9a3f400609200711w6d962329p3fa57a5a9e6f67fa@mail.gmail.com
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com
            name: jerry gay
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40364'
        subject: '[perl #40364] [PATCH] line endings of perl .t test files '
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158692295
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        hidden: ~
        message_id: 1d9a3f400609191157g316517cekb3887561c14c8ada@mail.gmail.com
        messages:
          - 4510414D.2070505@gmx.de
        posters:
          - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com
            name: jerry gay
          - email: Bernhard.Schmalhofer@gmx.de
            name: Bernhard Schmalhofer
        subject: '#parrotsketch logs: 19SEP06'
        summary: |-
          Jerry Gay posted the URL of latest
          [#ParrotSketch log](http://www.parrotcode.org/misc/parrotsketch-logs/irclog.parrotsketch-200609/irclog.parrotsketch.20060918).
      - date_from: 1158692825
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        hidden: ~
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        messages:
          - rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158692817-439.40367-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Leopold Toetsch via RT
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40367'
        subject: '[perl #40367] [TODO] SDL tests '
        summary: |-
          In ticket
          <rt://perl/40367>,
          Leopold Toetsch requested tests for configuration,
          all SDL classes and interfaces, 
          tests of full-fledged examples, and eventually tests for the GUI.
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        hidden: ~
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        messages:
          - rt-3.5.HEAD-31251-1158746130-1516.40370-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com
            name: Jerry Gay via RT
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40370'
        subject: '[perl #40370] [PATCH] code_coda.t update '
        summary: |-
          Paul Cochrane submitted a number of patches to add the required emacs
          and vim coda as requested in <rt://perl/40279>.
          
          * <rt://perl/40370> (applied as 14671)
          * <rt://perl/40371> (applied as 14673)
          * <rt://perl/40372> (applied as 14674)
          * <rt://perl/40373> (applied as 14675)
          * <rt://perl/40374> (applied as 14676)
          * <rt://perl/40377> 
          * <rt://perl/40393> (applied as 14688)
      - date_from: 1158757521
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        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31259-1158757513-1305.40371-72-0@perl.org
        messages:
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          - 8e8ee0d40609211711i4c1e2e60qa1c120b2dfd64dd1@mail.gmail.com
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com
            name: Jerry Gay via RT
          - email: chromatic@wgz.org
            name: chromatic
          - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com
            name: jerry gay
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40371'
        subject: '[perl #40371] [PATCH] as2c.pl C-file coda fix '
        summary: ''
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        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31251-1158758181-1324.40372-72-0@perl.org
        messages:
          - rt-3.5.HEAD-31259-1158771962-803.40372-14-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com
            name: Jerry Gay via RT
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40372'
        subject: '[perl #40372] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/compilers '
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158758701
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        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158758688-1494.40373-72-0@perl.org
        messages:
          - rt-3.5.HEAD-31257-1158773307-1672.40373-14-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com
            name: Jerry Gay via RT
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40373'
        subject: '[perl #40373] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/config/gen '
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158760369
        date_to: 1158774651
        hidden: merged into rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158766891-1171.40370-14-0@perl.org
        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31251-1158774644-306.40374-14-0@perl.org
        messages:
          - rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158760347-1166.40374-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com
            name: Jerry Gay via RT
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40374'
        subject: '[perl #40374] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/include '
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158760968
        date_to: 1158760968
        hidden: merged into rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158766891-1171.40370-14-0@perl.org
        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158760927-1362.40375-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40375'
        subject: '[perl #40375] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/config/gen '
        summary: ''
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        date_to: 1158761246
        hidden: merged into rt-3.5.HEAD-31258-1158766891-1171.40370-14-0@perl.org
        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31259-1158761235-317.40377-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40377'
        subject: '[perl #40377] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/examples '
        summary: ''
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        messages:
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        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Jerry Gay
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40379'
        subject: '[perl #40379] [TODO] investigate use of tools/dev/as2c.pl '
        summary: |-
          In ticket
          <rt://perl/40379>,
          Jerry Gay requested an investigation in to `tool/dev/as2c.pl` because
          makefile it calls is not platform-independent.  Leopold Toetsch explained
          the purpose behind the file.
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        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Herbert Poul
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40380'
        subject: "[perl #40380] [PATCH] errors on 'make install' - src/pdb.c "
        summary: |-
          In ticket
          <rt://perl/40380>,
          Herbert Poul reported a failure with `make install`.  He included a
          patch.
      - date_from: 1158871238
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        messages:
          - 200609221043.48788.lt@toetsch.at
        posters:
          - email: karl.forner@gmail.com
            name: Karl Forner
          - email: lt@toetsch.at
            name: Leopold Toetsch
        subject: '[DONE] shootout example testing'
        summary: |-
          Karl Forner included a patch to test the shootout PIR programs in
          `examples/shootout.pir`, which was applied as r14684.
      - date_from: 1158874728
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        messages:
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        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Jerry Gay
          - email: rogers-perl6@rgrjr.dyndns.org
            name: Bob Rogers
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40392'
        subject: '[perl #40392] [CAGE] convert C<internal_exception> to C<real_exception> '
        summary: |-
          In ticket <rt://perl/40392>, Jerry Gay requested that instances of
          `internal_exception` be replaced with `real_exception`.
          Bob Rogers pointed out that in many instances, `internal_exception` might
          be needed because `real_exception` requires a working control stack.
      - date_from: 1158884598
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        message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-31251-1158884568-968.40393-72-0@perl.org
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40393'
        subject: '[perl #40393] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/src '
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158885281
        date_to: 1158949240
        hidden: ~
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        messages:
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        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com
            name: jerry gay
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40394'
        subject: '[perl #40394] [PATCH] Added a test for multiple codas to t/codingstd/code_coda.t '
        summary: |-
          Paul Cochrane sent a patch as ticket <rt://perl/40394>.  The patch includes
          tests for multiply-defined codas.  Jerry Gay modified it slightly and
          applied it as r14686.
      - date_from: 1158884598
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        messages:
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        posters:
          - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com
            name: Jerry Gay via RT
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Paul Cochrane
          - email: rogers-perl6@rgrjr.dyndns.org
            name: Bob Rogers
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40393'
        subject: '[perl #40393] [PATCH] C coda fix in parrot/src '
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158945783
        date_to: 1158971556
        hidden: ~
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        messages:
          - 200609230203.42037.lt@toetsch.at
          - 45148061.2040502@jwcs.net
        posters:
          - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org
            name: Bernhard Schmalhofer
          - email: lt@toetsch.at
            name: Leopold Toetsch
          - email: jonathan@jwcs.net
            name: Jonathan Worthington
        rt_ticket: 'perl #40402'
        subject: '[perl #40402] Remove src/ops/dotgnu.ops '
        summary: |-
          Bernhard Schmalhofer wondered in ticket <rt://perl/40402> if he could
          remove `dotgnu.ops` which was a conversion file for C# which now appears
          obsolete.  Jonathan Worthington suggested removing it, and 
          Leopold Toetsch pointed to his generic answer on the subject.
    title: Parrot Porters
  - name: perl6-users
    threads:
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        posters:
          - email: darren@DarrenDuncan.net
            name: Darren Duncan
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: mark@summersault.com
            name: Mark Stosberg
          - email: trey@eecs.harvard.edu
            name: Trey Harris
          - email: mail@gedankenkonstrukt.de
            name: Thomas Wittek
          - email: schwigon@webit.de
            name: Steffen Schwigon
          - email: david@cantrell.org.uk
            name: David Cantrell
          - email: amir.aharoni@gmail.com
            name: Amir E. Aharoni
          - email: doughera@lafayette.edu
            name: Andy Dougherty
          - email: merlyn@stonehenge.com
            name: merlyn
          - email: concept@conceptonline.hu
            name: Fagyal Csongor
          - email: fawaka@gmail.com
            name: Leon Timmermans
          - email: aankhen@gmail.com
            name: Aankhen
          - email: michael.snoyman@ucla.edu
            name: Michael Snoyman
          - email: stevep@metalogicplc.com
            name: Steve Pitchford
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
        subject: the CGI.pm in Perl 6
        summary: |-
          Last week, a number of posts were devoted to discussing the merits of
          refactoring and renaming CGI.pm for Perl 6.  Removing HTML generation
          methods from the core module, renaming CGI, and the relationship between
          CGI.pm and session management received the most type.  This week, the
          thread continued.
          
          Once again, several people expressed the opinion that HTML generation
          could be included in a separate module which worked well with the parameter
          gathering, but the view that these are integrated tasks was also expressed.
          Mark Stosberg suggested that people who have concrete ideas about the API
          should create a 
          [wiki page](http://rakudo.org/perl6/index.cgi).  This would allow the
          design to be developed by many people and understood by those with less 
          API design experience.
          
          Mark also pointed out that the suggestion of `use perl5:CGI` might not work
          well in practice, as currently it is not clearly defined how to pass
          information to Perl 5.  This led to a side discussion on how Perl
          5 embedding should work.  Mark created a
          [wiki page](http://rakudo.org/perl6/index.cgi?using_perl_5_embedding) to
          summarize expectations about Perl 5 embedding.
          
          Meanwhile, Juerd suggested that the `param` method should be replaced with
          two hashes, `get` and `post`.  A. Pagaltzis thought that the beauty of the
          `param` method is that it lets you treat input as single- or multi-valued
          at your own discretion.  The topic continued, with a detour to cover
          the correct syntax for `my @bar = $q.param<bar>[];`.
          
          Another topic was concerned with the default encoding.  An argument
          was made for it being UTF-8, and another person preferred it to be
          undeclared.  The HTTP specification says that the default is Latin 1.
          
          In thread <msgid:dc69626e0609111331o1d33dc87n5b26c918256c5bc@mail.gmail.com>,
          the discussion of session management continued.  Last week, Michael
          Snoyman suggested including it in CGI.pm, and Yuval Kogman begged for a
          plugin solution.  This week, the thread was consumed by the API design
          and module naming discussions from the initial thread.
          
          In the splinter on module names, Juerd was
          completely against anything which contained the word 'CGI'.  Ian
          Langworth proposed 'HTTP', but several people thought that the module
          typically involves fetching parameters, not dealing with the protocol.
          
          As for the API design discussion, it repeated the main
          thread's arguments for the most part.
          Jacinta Richardson introduced a new request: subroutines should have
          a uniform naming scheme, rather than mixing terms (`scrolling_list` but
          `popup_menu`) and underscores (`textfield` versus `password_field`).
          
          For more CGI discussion, also see
          <msgid:20060917103509.GJ16337@c4.convolution.nl>.
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        posters:
          - email: trey@eecs.harvard.edu
            name: Trey Harris
          - email: mail@gedankenkonstrukt.de
            name: Thomas Wittek
          - email: schwigon@webit.de
            name: Steffen Schwigon
          - email: darren@DarrenDuncan.net
            name: Darren Duncan
          - email: david@cantrell.org.uk
            name: David Cantrell
          - email: amir.aharoni@gmail.com
            name: Amir E. Aharoni
          - email: mark@summersault.com
            name: Mark Stosberg
          - email: doughera@lafayette.edu
            name: Andy Dougherty
          - email: merlyn@stonehenge.com
            name: merlyn
          - email: concept@conceptonline.hu
            name: Fagyal Csongor
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: fawaka@gmail.com
            name: Leon Timmermans
          - email: aankhen@gmail.com
            name: Aankhen
          - email: michael.snoyman@ucla.edu
            name: Michael Snoyman
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
          - email: stevep@metalogicplc.com
            name: Steve Pitchford
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
        subject: 'Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6'
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1157950356
        date_to: 1158458237
        hidden: ~
        message_id: 4504EB8B.9070603@rusrating.ru
        messages:
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          - 20060917015710.20037.qmail@lists.develooper.com
        posters:
          - email: richard@rusrating.ru
            name: Richard Hainsworth
          - email: trey@lopsa.org
            name: Trey Harris
          - email: audreyt@audreyt.org
            name: Audrey Tang
          - email: mark@summersault.com
            name: Mark Stosberg
        subject: Trying to use Perl5 modules
        summary: |-
          Earlier,
          Richard Hainsworth was trying to discover how to use Perl 5 modules      
          in Perl 6.  He included some code which worked in Perl 5,
          and asked how he could use them in Pugs.  Trey Harris replied that
          imports currently don't work, and showed a workaround.  Audrey Tang
          answered that imports were implemented a few weeks ago, but implicit
          imports aren't supported yet. 
          
          This week, Mark Stosberg thanked Audrey for the status update and
          corrected the wiki to contain this information.  He invited others
          to include [tips about Perl 5 
          embedding](http://rakudo.org/perl6/index.cgi?using_perl_5_embedding).
      - date_from: 1158017648
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        posters:
          - email: michael.snoyman@ucla.edu
            name: Michael Snoyman
          - email: nothingmuch@woobling.org
            name: Yuval Kogman
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: mark@summersault.com
            name: Mark Stosberg
          - email: ian@langworth.com
            name: Ian Langworth
          - email: concept@conceptonline.hu
            name: Fagyal Csongor
          - email: jarich@perltraining.com.au
            name: Jacinta Richardson
          - email: merlyn@stonehenge.com
            name: merlyn
          - email: ml-perl@thepierianspring.org
            name: Randy W. Sims
          - email: aankhen@gmail.com
            name: Aankhen
          - email: mail@gedankenkonstrukt.de
            name: Thomas Wittek
        subject: 'CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)'
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158491441
        date_to: 1158491441
        hidden: ~
        message_id: 450D2D22.5010303@hainsworth.ru
        posters:
          - email: richard@hainsworth.ru
            name: Richard Hainsworth
        subject: Index of terms
        summary: 'Richard Hainsworth asked for an index of terms to be compiled for the Synopses. The silent masses apparently use `grep -r`, or [Perl6::Bible](http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Perl6::Bible).'
      - date_from: 1158494634
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        hidden: ~
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          - email: richard@hainsworth.ru
            name: Richard Hainsworth
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
        subject: more on perl5 modules
        summary: "Richard Hainsworth asked for help using Perl 5's Gtk2 module in a Perl 6. Aristotle Pagaltzis corrected his code, but that version didn't work on Richard's version of pugs, which Juerd explained was ancient."
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        hidden: ~
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        messages:
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        posters:
          - email: richard@hainsworth.ru
            name: Richard Hainsworth
          - email: masoch@istic.org
            name: Daniel Hulme
          - email: nothingmuch@woobling.org
            name: Yuval Kogman
          - email: schwigon@webit.de
            name: Steffen Schwigon
          - email: malaire@gmail.com
            name: Markus Laire
        subject: Trying to make a new operator
        summary: "Richard Hainsworth was trying to define a custom operator, but it didn't work out. Daniel Hulme noted that the operator has to be declared up right to be used, and Yuval Kogman subsequently nitpicked that only the grammar needs to know about it's existence, and a stub definition will do. With his new found knowledge, Richard went on to implement the birth of Jesus, which Markus Laire refactored.  No religious wars ensued."
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            name: Juerd
          - email: amir.aharoni@gmail.com
            name: Amir E. Aharoni
          - email: aankhen@gmail.com
            name: Aankhen
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
          - email: mail@gedankenkonstrukt.de
            name: Thomas Wittek
        subject: 'Web development I: Web::Toolkit'
        summary: |-
          After much discussion in 
          '<msgid:p06230900c128b8a02d9b@[192.168.1.101]>', Juerd decided to create
          a new thread to clarify and summarize his feelings on how Perl 6 should
          address web development.  The conversation moved on to XHTML versus HTML
          and whether code which generates HTML should confirm to the XHTML 
          specifications by default.
          
          Juerd continued the discussion of web development in
          '<msgid:20060921104130.GA16337@c4.convolution.nl>' with code examples.
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        hidden: ~
        message_id: 450DA5F0.4000106@skylightview.com
        messages:
          - 20060917183640.GN16337@c4.convolution.nl
          - 1158533274.5406.1.camel@localhost.localdomain
          - 20060917222333.GB22120@klangraum
        posters:
          - email: wherrera@skylightview.com
            name: William Herrera
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: ilmari.vacklin@helsinki.fi
            name: Ilmari Vacklin
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
        subject: perl6 and a multi-interpreted-language example
        summary: 'William Herrera cited a [blog post](http://e-scribe.com/news/193), akin to a language shootout, implementing the game of reverse in several languages. Juerd and Larry Wall provided their take on a Perl 6 version of the code, while Aristotle Pagaltzis provided a version in Perl 5 which he felt represented it better.'
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        date_to: 1158525218
        hidden: ~
        message_id: 450DB11B.9040209@skylightview.com
        posters:
          - email: wherrera@skylightview.com
            name: William Herrera
        subject: perl6 and a multi-interpreted-language example
        summary: 'William Herrera asked how one would go about implementing the game of [Reverse](http://e-scribe.com/news/193) in Perl 6. Larry promptly supplied a Perl 6 version, while Aristotle Pagaltzis provided an implementation in Perl 5 that seemed to do it more justice.'
      - date_from: 1158535016
        date_to: 1158577645
        hidden: broken thread
        message_id: 20060917231643.GA21170@wall.org
        messages:
          - afk1u3-2gn.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org
        posters:
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: benmorrow@tiscali.co.uk
            name: Ben Morrow
        subject: 'Re: perl6 and a multi-interpreted-language example'
        summary: ''
      - date_from: 1158764136
        date_to: 1158796239
        hidden: ~
        message_id: 45115686.3030805@conceptonline.hu
        messages:
          - 20060920202918.GC9337@klangraum
          - 16d769b70609201506q43f2f0e8u433d07a5a9ae7d86@mail.gmail.com
          - 20060920224734.GW16337@c4.convolution.nl
          - 20060920235111.GG9337@klangraum
          - 'p06230902c1377b99e46f@[192.168.1.101]'
          - 20060920232743.GA11475@wall.org
          - 1d9a3f400609200823v2237a573w3c61c9128e06c46c@mail.gmail.com
          - dc69626e0609200859t69d018c1qb2aab3d2381f4659@mail.gmail.com
        posters:
          - email: concept@conceptonline.hu
            name: Fagyal Csongor
          - email: pagaltzis@gmx.de
            name: A. Pagaltzis
          - email: cmasak@gmail.com
            name: Carl Mäsak
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: darren@DarrenDuncan.net
            name: Darren Duncan
          - email: larry@wall.org
            name: Larry Wall
          - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com
            name: jerry gay
          - email: michael.snoyman@ucla.edu
            name: Michael Snoyman
        subject: Perl6 "style-guide"
        summary: |-
          Fagyal Csongor asked if someone was willing to write a Perl 6 style guide.
          Aristotle Pagaltzis debated the merits of such a site, and mentioned that a
          cheat sheet for Perl 5 hackers would be nice. Carl Mäsak mentioned the
          [pugs porting howto](http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/other/porting_howto)
          in response. Darren Duncan suspected that Damian Conway's Perl Best Practices
          book was written to be forward compatible with Perl 6, a suspicion that Larry
          Wall confirmed. Lastly, Jerry Gay urged Fagyal to start a wiki page for a style
          guide, an idea expanded on by Michael Snoyman.
      - date_from: 1158835303
        date_to: 1158840115
        hidden: ~
        message_id: 20060921104130.GA16337@c4.convolution.nl
        messages:
          - 87slil1l9h.fsf@teufelkommraus.webit.de
        posters:
          - email: juerd@convolution.nl
            name: Juerd
          - email: schwigon@webit.de
            name: Steffen Schwigon
        subject: 'Web development II: Code'
        summary: |-
          Juerd posted several pseudocode stub classes for the basis of a web framework, proposing that they be put on some wiki space. Steffen Schwigon then offered the list in general subversion space for such endeavors.
          
          This message followed from '<msgid:20060917103509.GJ16337@c4.convolution.nl>'.
    title: Users
  - name: perl6-compiler
    threads:
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        date_to: 1158547721
        hidden: ~
        message_id: c711ff240609170132j103e93a2scb72f3892872b783@mail.gmail.com
        messages:
          - 8000CEE0-F32D-47E2-BD9D-D459B28FBD2F@mit.edu
        posters:
          - email: agentzh@gmail.com
            name: Agent Zhang
          - email: malon@MIT.EDU
            name: Christopher D. Malon
        subject: PCR replaces PGE in Pugs
        summary: Agent Zhang announced that PCR (the implementation of Perl 6 rules in perl 5) will replace PGE as the default rule engine in Pugs. This is supposed to solve the many issue people have with binding pugs to parrot.
      - date_from: 1158517534
        date_to: 1158520339
        hidden: ~
        message_id: c711ff240609171125u5be81663hd9a41440841c3dd5@mail.gmail.com
        messages:
          - 37B390FA-EA11-4B07-9663-3953149D554D@coleda.com
          - c711ff240609171133l19263811qa274f8e20b4e133@mail.gmail.com
          - c711ff240609171212l9c313a3j43e92e9b1fddc396@mail.gmail.com
        posters:
          - email: agentzh@gmail.com
            name: Agent Zhang
          - email: will@coleda.com
            name: Will Coleda
        subject: Check smoke results while reading Synopses
        summary: Agent Zhang announced that the smoke server and the synopses are now integrated using the smart link platform.
      - date_from: 1158607732
        date_to: 1158881502
        hidden: ~
        message_id: 57618.192.30.202.29.1158607703.squirrel@www.ippimail.com
        messages:
          - c711ff240609182157k4aaa8685pfdbf2f3b1df47c12@mail.gmail.com
        posters:
          - email: ajr@ippimail.com
            name: ajr
          - email: agentzh@gmail.com
            name: Agent Zhang
          - email: michael.snoyman@ucla.edu
            name: Michael Snoyman
          - email: ajs@ajs.com
            name: Aaron Sherman
          - email: sam@vilain.net
            name: Sam Vilain
        subject: Updates to "Perl 6 and Parrot Essentials"
        summary: |-
          ajr asked if an errata/updates file for [Perl 6 and Parrot Essentials (2nd edition)](http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/059600737X/) exists. Agent Zhang said that the book is now very much out of date, and that the synopses are a better place to look. Michael Snoyman and Sam Vilain both said that in their opinion
          the book was still a nice way to jump into Perl 6.
    title: Compiler
title: Weekly Perl 6 mailing list summary
